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'You're the Worst' roundtable: Unintentional douchiness

Season 2 | Episode 12 | “Other Things You Could Be Doing” | Aired Dec 2, 2015

Each week, EW Community contributors chat about the newest episode of You’re the Worst while they watch. This week, Tamar Barbash and Sundi Rose Holt share their thoughts as they watch “Other Things You Could Be Doing.”

Tamar: I so don’t want to watch Jimmy hook up with this girl.

Sundi: Things are going pretty fast with him and the bartender. This is definitely not going to help Gretchen and her depression. And now it looks like we might get our wish and finally see Edgar do some improv.

Tamar: Yes! I hope so. I like Lindsay so much better when she’s vulnerable.

Sundi: I agree. The relationship between her and Becca is so toxic and dysfunctional that it really puts her behaviors into perspective.

Tamar: Totally. It’s helpful to have that perspective because she can be so awful.

Sundi: Speaking of awful: Jimmy is being pretty awful to Gretchen. But in his defense, it does seem pretty hard to understand. He’s asking legit questions about why she’s there, and if she cares.

Tamar: I agree that he just can’t understand, but I also have tremendous empathy for him.

Sundi: Doesn’t it seem like Gretchen needs professional help?

Tamar: YESSSS. It has seemed that way for quite some time.

Sundi: Check out YTW shouting out to Peaky Blinders and Rectify. They are really classing it up.

Tamar: Ha! I knew you’d love it!

Sundi: But back to Gretchen. Just in terms of responsibility, the writers need to send her to a doctor. And isn’t it kind of kooky that Her weird neighbor, Henry Rollins, and her trainwreck friend all show up to her intervention, but not her parents?

Tamar: That was all a bit strange.

Sundi: I’m rooting for Edgar so hard in his improv career.

Tamar: Right? Edgar’s improv is amazing. But he wants to impress Jimmy so badly. I want to cry.

Sundi: But obviously, because it’s so important for him to impress Jimmy, that silhouette he sees isn’t going to be him. I mean … duh!

Tamar: Ugh—I’m already tearing up at the thought of him realizing it’s not Jimmy. OH, MAN. LOOK AT HIS FACE.

Sundi: I know … it’s the worst. YTW has been hammering the theme of selfishness and sacrifice this whole season. Every one of these characters is so self-absorbed, it’s sort of inevitable they they are going to get hurt all the time. And Paul is no exception. Is it me, or is Paul getting nerdier and nerdier every time we see him? I mean … the headband?

Tamar: I love him so much. However, I feel like he’s been pretty nerdy since day one. And hey, look at Lindsay making peace with Paul’s girlfriend. Good for her! Progress!

Sundi: I like how the progress is still laced with ridiculous, unfounded confidence. Totally Lindsay’s style. But this breakup scene between Jimmy and Gretchen … I can’t tell what is happening, really. Does either of them really want to break up? It doesn’t really seem so.

Tamar: This is so incredibly painful. Jimmy just wants Gretchen back. I don’t think he sees it as breaking up so much as seeing it like she’s gone already.

Sundi: There’s a lot of subtext to sort through. Gretchen doesn’t really want him to leave, but she obviously knows about his sidepiece. And then said sidepiece shows up at their house.

Tamar: Gretchen wants Jimmy to just be okay with how she is, which he obviously can’t be. But she doesn’t seem to want to get the help she needs, either.

Sundi: The expectations of the situation are impossible. Especially when the angry mistress arrives to call you out on your crap. I can’t decide who’s side I’m on. On the one hand, Gretchen has pushed Jimmy away and decided to go through this alone. But on the other, Jimmy is acting like a real douche. I’m torn.

Tamar: I don’t think Jimmy is acting like a douche per se. Mental illness is just so hard to understand. And it feels intentional and like Gretchen is choosing to shut down, even though she isn’t. In an ideal world, she would have been upfront with him about her illness from the beginning, and they would have had a game plan for if and when the situation arrived.

Sundi: I don’t know, Tamar. Cheating on your girlfriend who is obviously suffering from mental illness is pretty douchey. And I get that Gretchen isn’t choosing to feel this way, but she is choosing to cope with it this way—not seeing a doctor, refusing to let Jimmy help her, not reaching out to Lindsay. She’s making it pretty tough to be in the relationship with her.

Tamar: When you don’t understand mental illness, it totally is. But if you look at it like a guy whose girlfriend (whom he loves) was basically like, “Just go away and leave me alone,” it seems less douchey.

Sundi: And in the end, he didn’t go. Which appears to be the first thing to have made an impact. The writers made up for Jimmy’s douchey cheating by making him a better boyfriend than anybody thought. I did not see him staying.

Tamar: He really really loves Gretchen. Depression is really tough waters to navigate as a significant other. Especially for someone like Jimmy, who isn’t a natural caretaker to start.

Sundi: And now with this pregnancy scene with Lindsay. We’ve been speculating about a pregnancy storyline all season, but we thought it would be Gretchen. But nope, PSYCHE! It’s Lindsay!

Tamar: Is that the frozen Paul sperm?

Sundi: Not to be too judgmental, but it really could be a lot of folks’. Speaking of Maury …

Tamar: Ha! But who has she actually slept with?

Sundi: Well, she did go on that bender a few eps back, right? I thought it was implied that she was participating in some reckless behaviors. But maybe I’m jumping to conclusions. It would track, however, for her to finally be on the mend, let go of Paul, and then get pregnant with his baby.

Tamar: Yes, I think that’s probably totally right. But I want it to be Sam’s.

Sundi: That would be the BEST way to end the season. Did you hear all those high-art references he made? Rectify and David Foster Wallace? He’s obviously very cultured.

Tamar: Not to mention the reference to the Sam/Lindsay masterpiece.

Sundi: Yep—all sorts of Easter eggs. But I’ll bet all our wishing is for nothing. It’s gonna be a little nerdy, headband-wearing Paul, Jr.

Tamar: A hundred percent.

Sundi: It’s comforting to see the characters all moving in a more adult direction. They’ve come along way since the wedding in season one, episode one, where Jimmy was taking pictures of his junk and Gretchen stole a blender.

Tamar: Absolutely.

Sundi: Okay … one episode left and happy endings all around. Right?

Tamar: We can dream.

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TV Families | EW.com
Mark Harris
February 23, 1990 AT 05:00 AM EST

The Bradys are back, with a passel of 90’s hassles. Do they represent the typical American Family? Did they ever? Who does? Stare and compare!

Kind Of Family
TheBradyBunch 1969-74: Blended
The Bradys 1990-: Enormous
Married…With Children 1987-: Postnuclear
Thirtysomething 1987-: Extended
The Flintstones 1960-66: Modern Stone Age

Family Pet
The Brady Bunch: Tiger
The Bradys: Alice
Married…With Children: Buck
Thirtysomething: Grendel
The Flintstones: Dino

Typical Guest Star
The Brady Bunch: Davey Jones
The Bradys: There’s no room
Married…With Children: Sam Kinison
Thirtysomething: Carly Simon
The Flintstones: Ann Margrock

Expression Of Joy
The Brady Bunch: Groovy!
The Bradys: Ritual hugging
Married…With Children: ”Oh, great.”
Thirtysomething: ”Of course I’m happy for you. Really. But what about me? Why does it always have to be about you?
The Flintstones: ”Yabba-dabba doo

Expression Of Rage

The Brady Bunch: ”Hmmm…”
The Bradys: ”If you back away from something you really want, then you’re a quitter!” (the angriest any Brady has ever been)
Married…With Children: ”Aaagh, God, take me from this miserable life!”
Thirtysomething: ”I’m not angry, OK?”
The Flintstones: ”Willllmaaaa!”

Typical Problem
The Brady Bunch: Marcia and her rival both want to be the prom queen.
The Bradys: Bobby gets paralyzed.
Married…With Children: Al doesn’t buy his family Christmas presents.
Thirtysomething: Nancy gets cancer.
The Flintstones: Fred and Barney are staying out too late.

Typical Solution
The Brady Bunch: The prom committee decides to have two queens.
The Bradys: Bobby gets married.
Married…With Children: They hate him.
Thirtysomething: If only we knew…
The Flintstones: Wilma and Betty decide to follow them.

House Style
The Brady Bunch: Conservative but mod, circa ’69
The Bradys: Conservative but mod, circa ’90
Married…With Children: Roach motel
Thirtysomething: Enviable
The Flintstones: Suburban cave

Clothing Style
The Brady Bunch: Early Osmonds
The Bradys: Made in the USA
Married…With Children: Flammable fabrics
Thirtysomething: Eclectic earth tones; nice ties
The Flintstones: One-piece

Most Annoying Character
The Brady Bunch: Alice’s cousin Emma, the substitute housekeeper (too strict)
The Bradys: Marcia’s husband, Wally (chronically unemployable)
Married…With Children: Steve (supercilious)
Thirtysomething: Ellyn (goes through Hope’s drawers, babbles, changes hairstyle every other week, generally mistreats her friends)
The Flintstones: Mr. Slate (bossy)

Attitude Toward Sex
The Brady Bunch: Never heard of it
The Bradys: Omigod — even Cindy does it!
Married…With Children: Peg: Yes. Al: No.
Thirtysomething: They didn’t get all those kids by accident.
The Flintstones: Prehistoric

How Spouses Fight
The Brady Bunch: They don’t.
The Bradys: Infrequently, but it happens
Married…With Children: Tooth and nail
Thirtysomething: They stop talking
The Flintstones: Fred and Barney go bowling while Wilma and Betty max out their charge cards.

How Kids Get Into Trouble
The Brady Bunch: Greg takes a puff of a cigarette.
The Bradys: Carol’s grandson steals her business cards and sticks them in the spokes of Bobby’s wheelchair.
Married…With Children: By committing felonies
Thirtysomething: Ethan plays with a forbidden toy rocket.
The Flintstones: They don’t.

How They’re Punished

The Brady Bunch: ”It’s not what you did, honey — it’s that you couldn’t come to us.”
The Bradys ”Next time, ask.”
Married…With Children: By the authorities
Thirtysomething: It blows up in his face.
The Flintstones: They’re not.

What Family Does For Fun
The Brady Bunch: Takes special three-part vacations to Hawaii and the Grand Canyon
The Bradys: Has flashbacks
Married…With Children: Exchanges insults
Thirtysomething: Talks
The Flintstones: Attends showings of The Monster at the Bedrock Drive-In

Unsolved Mysteries
The Brady Bunch: How exactly did Carol’s first husband and Mike’s first wife die?
The Bradys: What’s with Marcia’s new face and Bobby’s blonde hair
Married…With Children: What kind of hair spray does Peg use?
Thirtysomething: Why did Nancy take Elliot back? What do Gary and Susanna see in each other?
The Flintstones: How does Barney’s shirt stay on if he has no shoulders? Where do Fred and Wilma plug in their TV?

Worst Behavior
The Brady Bunch: The Brady children once made Alice feel under-appreciated.

The Bradys: Marcia’s son Mickey watches Bobby’s car-crash tape for fun.
Married…With Children: The Bundy’s kill their neighbor’s dog.
Thirtysomething: Elliot has an affair and talks about it.
The Flintstones: Characters don’t wear under-clothes.

Best Reason To Watch
The Brady Bunch: This is what life should be.
The Bradys: They’re all grown-ups now!
Married…With Children: Terry Rakolta hates it.
Thirtysomething (Tie) This is your life. This isn’t your life.
The Flintstones: This is what life might have been.

Best Reason Not To Watch
The Brady Bunch: Blurred vision from rerun overdoses.
The Bradys: You’re all grown-ups now.
Married…With Children: She has a point.
Thirtysomething: After a while, you think it’s real.
The Flintstones: The Simpsons

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