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Season 2 | Episode 9 | “LCD Soundsystem” | Aired Nov 4, 2015

Each week, EW Community contributors chat about the newest episode of You’re the Worst while they watch. This week, Tamar Barbash and Sundi Rose Holt share their thoughts as they watched “LCD Soundsystem.”

Tamar: I’m confused. What am I watching?
Sundi: I dunno. I’m standing by for more info. Ahhh … it’s a little context for how the world sees Gretchen and Jimmy. And possible antagonists for them.
Tamar:
I feel like I need to rewatch that. I wasn’t paying attention, I thought it was the wrong show.
Sundi: These characters are Gretchen-and-Jimmy–lite.
Tamar:
Ha! Love the Lost reference.
Sundi:
I’m loving this contrasting of characters.
Tamar: Really? So far I’m kind of like, “Who are these people and where is my show?”
Sundi:
It’s definitely a departure, but it seems like we’re supposed to make some comparisons.
Tamar:
I agree. Gretchen’s being creepy. What’s she thinking when she’s watching them?
Sundi:
Maybe envy?
Tamar:
Maybe. Okay, I just rewatched the open, cause I wasn’t plugged in enough the first time. It seems the idea is that with just a little evolution Gretchen and Jimmy could be functioning and contributing members of society.

 

Sundi: I wonder how YTW‘s depiction of Gretchen’s depression is being received by those who actually suffer from it.
Tamar: I do, too. She’s following them now?
Sundi: I like your idea about the open. I wonder if Gretchen is feeling that, too. Except she has no idea how to process those feelings, and is doing some wildly inappropriate creeping.
Tamar:
I wonder if she feels like if there was some small change in her life, she wouldn’t feel so sad.
Sundi:
Well, as long as Jimmy is eating Craisins out of the box in his pocket, then we aren’t supposed to sympathize with Gretchen’s existential crisis.
Tamar: What do you mean?
Sundi: Or at least, Jimmy isn’t sympathizing. I’m just using the Craisins as metaphor. Another was for Jimmy to avoid Gretchen’s actual deal. Like, if he knew how much she was actually hurting, or was taking her feelings seriously, he wouldn’t really be worried about the box of Craisins in his pocket or maintaining the silly illusion that he’s “writing.”
Tamar: Ah. Right. I think last week’s whole purpose was to make it clear that Jimmy does not understand that this is not something that’s just going to go away.
Sundi:
Which I find admirable in the YTW writing. It would be really cheap for them to “cure” Gretchen within a few episodes. And I imagine struggling to relate the illness to loved ones is a common struggle.
Tamar:
Absolutely. Okay. Maybe she is pregnant? I mean she’s been drinking a s—t ton so I hope she’s not, but this is weird.
Sundi:
She just kidnapped that child. And suddenly this show just took a very strange turn. Are we supposed to believe that Gretchen’s biological clock is ticking? She did give the little girl back, at least.
Tamar:
Yes, at least. Did she kidnap the dog?? WTF.
Sundi:
Tamar … I don’t know if this being fair to the depression sufferers. Are we on board with this?
Tamar: I don’t think this is the depression.
Sundi:
I’m no expert, but it doesn’t seem like it to me either. What are we watching?
Tamar: This is Gretchen dealing with the depression.
Sundi:
That makes more sense. I guess we can’t expect Gretchen to do anything reasonable. Like take meds or go to therapy.
Tamar: This is choices she’s making to try to shift something in her life that I guess she sees as responsible for her mental illness. Based on her comment to Edgar earlier, she seems to have some Sliding Doors notion of her life. If she had just made one decision differently, maybe she could be that couple across the street.
Sundi: I always wonder about Gretchen and Jimmy’s guilt threshold. Surely she must feel some remorse for her terrible decisions. Which sort of looks like regret, but she continues to be completely absurd in her choices.
Tamar:
The thing that’s always been so fascinating to me about Jimmy and Gretchen is that lack of remorse. I’ve done some crazy things in my life, but I always wake up the next morning feeling horrible. Jimmy and Gretchen celebrate those nights and are proud of them.
Sundi:
I agree totally. And that’s why this storyline doesn’t track for me. All of a sudden she’s examining her entire life. It rings false.
Tamar: This is going to end badly.
Sundi: Gretchen is staring into a fun-house mirror of her own life.
Tamar:
Whatever else is happening, I love Jimmy through and through.
Sundi:
Right? He’s such a nerd, but I love his confidence in it.
Tamar:
I have rewatched “Hakuna Matata” at least 20 times.
Sundi:
Is she making a pass at him?
Tamar:
Oh god. This guy is going to undo the whole thing. The wife just made it all okay for her, and now he’s going to to tear it down.
Sundi: You can see your illusions just crumbling.
Tamar:
Okay, I get it now. She allowed herself to believe she could be happy because those two did it.
Sundi:
They were some kind of aspirational model, but when he lifted the curtain, she was disappointed at what it really looked like. Nobody wants to know how the sausage is made. Sorry to mix my metaphors.
Tamar:
Right, and I think he said exactly the things she’s afraid of. That she’s going to feel trapped, that she’ll never be truly happy, that she’ll always miss her old life.
Sundi:
Interesting that she could be so disappointed by the loss of something that she’s never admitted she wanted. The baby, the husband, the domesticated life. She’s mourning it, in a way.
Tamar:
I’m not sure if she’s mourning those specifics as much as just the idea that she might ever be happy. It feels like in the midst of this depression, she was looking for some guarantee that she can, in fact, be happy. And that speech at the end from the husband confirmed for her that the answer is “no.”
Sundi:
I agree with that. I’m just surprised at the symbols she chose to focus on. Especially since she’s been so adamant about not wanting any part of it.
Tamar:
Right. We’ve never gotten anything but horror from Gretchen when it came to the ideas of settling down and having kids.
Sundi:
I wonder if this depression arc, and the subsequent recovery, might mark a shift in the characters’ ethos. Could we see a baby in season 3?
Tamar:
I have given up completely on guessing what might come next.
Sundi:
I like the bold choices this season. Sophomore attempts can be notoriously hard to execute, but I feel pretty satisfied with YTW season 2.
Tamar: It’s impressive. We knew they couldn’t stay thematically where they were in season 1. I never would have guessed this is where they’d go with season 2, but it’s adding depth to these characters that is really enjoyable to watch.
Sundi:
And scope to the show, as well. I like an expanding universe. And this episode did the job in that aspect.
Tamar:
Agreed. Although, I did miss Edgar.

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TV Families | EW.com
Mark Harris
February 23, 1990 AT 05:00 AM EST

The Bradys are back, with a passel of 90’s hassles. Do they represent the typical American Family? Did they ever? Who does? Stare and compare!

Kind Of Family
TheBradyBunch 1969-74: Blended
The Bradys 1990-: Enormous
Married…With Children 1987-: Postnuclear
Thirtysomething 1987-: Extended
The Flintstones 1960-66: Modern Stone Age

Family Pet
The Brady Bunch: Tiger
The Bradys: Alice
Married…With Children: Buck
Thirtysomething: Grendel
The Flintstones: Dino

Typical Guest Star
The Brady Bunch: Davey Jones
The Bradys: There’s no room
Married…With Children: Sam Kinison
Thirtysomething: Carly Simon
The Flintstones: Ann Margrock

Expression Of Joy
The Brady Bunch: Groovy!
The Bradys: Ritual hugging
Married…With Children: ”Oh, great.”
Thirtysomething: ”Of course I’m happy for you. Really. But what about me? Why does it always have to be about you?
The Flintstones: ”Yabba-dabba doo

Expression Of Rage

The Brady Bunch: ”Hmmm…”
The Bradys: ”If you back away from something you really want, then you’re a quitter!” (the angriest any Brady has ever been)
Married…With Children: ”Aaagh, God, take me from this miserable life!”
Thirtysomething: ”I’m not angry, OK?”
The Flintstones: ”Willllmaaaa!”

Typical Problem
The Brady Bunch: Marcia and her rival both want to be the prom queen.
The Bradys: Bobby gets paralyzed.
Married…With Children: Al doesn’t buy his family Christmas presents.
Thirtysomething: Nancy gets cancer.
The Flintstones: Fred and Barney are staying out too late.

Typical Solution
The Brady Bunch: The prom committee decides to have two queens.
The Bradys: Bobby gets married.
Married…With Children: They hate him.
Thirtysomething: If only we knew…
The Flintstones: Wilma and Betty decide to follow them.

House Style
The Brady Bunch: Conservative but mod, circa ’69
The Bradys: Conservative but mod, circa ’90
Married…With Children: Roach motel
Thirtysomething: Enviable
The Flintstones: Suburban cave

Clothing Style
The Brady Bunch: Early Osmonds
The Bradys: Made in the USA
Married…With Children: Flammable fabrics
Thirtysomething: Eclectic earth tones; nice ties
The Flintstones: One-piece

Most Annoying Character
The Brady Bunch: Alice’s cousin Emma, the substitute housekeeper (too strict)
The Bradys: Marcia’s husband, Wally (chronically unemployable)
Married…With Children: Steve (supercilious)
Thirtysomething: Ellyn (goes through Hope’s drawers, babbles, changes hairstyle every other week, generally mistreats her friends)
The Flintstones: Mr. Slate (bossy)

Attitude Toward Sex
The Brady Bunch: Never heard of it
The Bradys: Omigod — even Cindy does it!
Married…With Children: Peg: Yes. Al: No.
Thirtysomething: They didn’t get all those kids by accident.
The Flintstones: Prehistoric

How Spouses Fight
The Brady Bunch: They don’t.
The Bradys: Infrequently, but it happens
Married…With Children: Tooth and nail
Thirtysomething: They stop talking
The Flintstones: Fred and Barney go bowling while Wilma and Betty max out their charge cards.

How Kids Get Into Trouble
The Brady Bunch: Greg takes a puff of a cigarette.
The Bradys: Carol’s grandson steals her business cards and sticks them in the spokes of Bobby’s wheelchair.
Married…With Children: By committing felonies
Thirtysomething: Ethan plays with a forbidden toy rocket.
The Flintstones: They don’t.

How They’re Punished

The Brady Bunch: ”It’s not what you did, honey — it’s that you couldn’t come to us.”
The Bradys ”Next time, ask.”
Married…With Children: By the authorities
Thirtysomething: It blows up in his face.
The Flintstones: They’re not.

What Family Does For Fun
The Brady Bunch: Takes special three-part vacations to Hawaii and the Grand Canyon
The Bradys: Has flashbacks
Married…With Children: Exchanges insults
Thirtysomething: Talks
The Flintstones: Attends showings of The Monster at the Bedrock Drive-In

Unsolved Mysteries
The Brady Bunch: How exactly did Carol’s first husband and Mike’s first wife die?
The Bradys: What’s with Marcia’s new face and Bobby’s blonde hair
Married…With Children: What kind of hair spray does Peg use?
Thirtysomething: Why did Nancy take Elliot back? What do Gary and Susanna see in each other?
The Flintstones: How does Barney’s shirt stay on if he has no shoulders? Where do Fred and Wilma plug in their TV?

Worst Behavior
The Brady Bunch: The Brady children once made Alice feel under-appreciated.

The Bradys: Marcia’s son Mickey watches Bobby’s car-crash tape for fun.
Married…With Children: The Bundy’s kill their neighbor’s dog.
Thirtysomething: Elliot has an affair and talks about it.
The Flintstones: Characters don’t wear under-clothes.

Best Reason To Watch
The Brady Bunch: This is what life should be.
The Bradys: They’re all grown-ups now!
Married…With Children: Terry Rakolta hates it.
Thirtysomething (Tie) This is your life. This isn’t your life.
The Flintstones: This is what life might have been.

Best Reason Not To Watch
The Brady Bunch: Blurred vision from rerun overdoses.
The Bradys: You’re all grown-ups now.
Married…With Children: She has a point.
Thirtysomething: After a while, you think it’s real.
The Flintstones: The Simpsons

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