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'You're the Worst' roundtable: Gretchen's girls

Season 2 | Episode 3 | “Born Dead” | Aired Sep 23, 2015

Each week, EW Community contributors chat about the newest episode of You’re the Worst. Here are Tamar Barbash and Sundi Rose Holt‘s thoughts on the third episode of this season, “Born Dead.”

Tamar: I’m so nervous to hear what you thought!

Sundi: I liked this week a lot. And even though Jimmy wasn’t really front and center, he was by far, a highlight.

Tamar: Yes! I liked it, too. And I agree that Chris Geere really shined.

Sundi: I have to wonder if he practices his expressions and inflections at home in the mirror.

Tamar: I literally have this exact note: Jimmy’s facial expressions are killer.

Sundi: A line as simple as, “Yes, I know Heather was a popular girls’ name in the ’80s” made me chuckle out lout just from his tone.

Tamar: A hundred percent. His delivery is so spot-on, and perhaps the accent helps, but almost everything he says is hilarious.

Sundi: The accent just makes it so much better. This entire episode, his prissiness is just enough of a contrast that it makes a nice balance.

Tamar: There are certain things about the show that I find somewhat inconsistent, so I really appreciate the things that remain true throughout, like Jimmy’s need for cleanliness.

Sundi: Especially since Gretchen is so obviously out of control. The more they up-play Jimmy’s persnickety ways, the easier it is to see how irresponsible and immature Gretchen is.

Tamar: Absolutely. And I love seeing those contrasts. These two people aren’t exactly the same; they just appreciate the parts of the other that others often find unappealing.

Sundi: I appreciate the scenes where they come together—like the opening scene, in which they are both disgusted by Vernon’s Instagram.

Tamar: I love those moments too.

Sundi: I wasn’t really sure in what direction the story was heading when Gretchen started talking about “her girls.”

Tamar: This episode reminded me of an episode of Sex and the City where one of the group’s old friends comes to town, and she’s still getting drunk and behaving the way they did in their 20s, and they’re all horrified.

Sundi: I think it was really effectively upended. It was an entry point into Gretchen’s fear of growing up.

Tamar: It’s the first time we’ve had any indication that even within Gretchen’s world, her behavior is inappropriate.

Sundi: Yes, that is exactly how I felt. It gave us some real context to her situation. In a vacuum, we can enjoy her ridiculous immaturity, but compared to the other girls, it’s obviously unacceptable. But we also got to see her alternate future in the Cory character. It’s like Gretchen is staring down two paths.

Tamar: It definitely felt like a big “make a choice” moment. I just wonder if they’re really going to follow through with it, or if we’ll just go back to the old Gretch.

Sundi: I wonder that too. Surely we’re not ready for Gretchen to get pregnant or join a program. That’s too fast for a season that seems to be taking its time in a lot of ways.

Tamar: And I also don’t think that’s the show anyone signed up to watch. But it would also seem a bit of a cop-out to have this episode and then ignore it.

Sundi: I’d like to see Jimmy and Gretchen just marinate in their situation. There’s room for the people around them to evolve pretty quickly, but I’m reluctant to buy into a storyline in which they talk about big, huge future stuff. Although wouldn’t it be just a delight to see Jimmy work his way through a pregnancy scare? In terms of rom-com TV tropes, I think there is a LOT of fodder there.

Tamar: OMG. Gretchen said “abobo.”

Sundi: She totally did. And I’ll admit, I laughed despite myself. That’s the You’re the Worst we know and love.

Tamar: It’s hard to imagine much of a pregnancy story with someone who is that flippant about abortion.

Sundi: No, you’re totally right. But where to next?

Tamar: I wonder what small steps toward growing up this interaction with her friends may incite. But let’s talk Lindsay and Edgar.

Sundi: Edgar is growing on me so much. I’ve always rooted for him, but now I am totally devoted to him. His sweetness is so much. The exchange between Edgar and Paul and that horrible story Paul tells about “the sad thing” is so funny, but so revealing about his tender heart.

Tamar: Paul (Allan McLeod) killed that monologue. It was just perfect. And Edgar is too good. I’m afraid Lindsay is going to squash him like a bug.

Sundi: Me too, but he showed some moxie when he grabbed her and kissed her.

Tamar: I said out loud right before it happened, “If Edgar had bigger balls, he’d just kiss her.” And then he did it! And I was amazed!! And, of course, she didn’t get it.

Sundi: She’s spinning out and it seemed like she was reaching her moment of clarity. When she apologized to Edgar for using him, I thought, “This is it. She’s going to do right by him.” But then she just lapsed back into it. I adore how the writers made Amy (Paul’s new girlfriend) so likable and relatable, yet so completely nerdy and weird.

Tamar: She was his perfect match. And in contrast to Lindsay, it just underscores how wrong she is for him, and vice versa. Which then highlights how misguided her efforts to make him jealous really are.

Sundi: He was falling for it a little. Which I’m not super-crazy about. I don’t want any turning back for either of them.

Tamar: I thought that was ridiculous. It was the one part of the episode that really bothered me.

Sundi: It felt like filler. Had it been an avenue for Edgar and Lindsay to further their thing, then I think I could have been a little more okay with it. But on its own, it just didn’t make sense.

Tamar: I can understand that Lindsay’s ego is bruised. So her behavior, though still a bit of a stretch to me, has some merit. But Paul met the perfect woman after being terribly mistreated. Why would he ever look back?

Sundi: It would be okay with me if YTW takes a couple of episodes to work through the seeds they’ve sown tonight.

Tamar: I agree. They laid the groundwork for a lot of development. Now they can slow down and reap the results. More Sam and crew!

Sundi: I’d really like to see Gretchen work through her feelings about her friends. Does Gretchen even have a job anymore?

Tamar: I don’t know!

Sundi: It’s like the only facet of her life that she has control over.

Tamar: Totally, although her success there seems almost accidental.

Sundi: I hadn’t thought of it like that, but you’re right. No context—maybe that’s the problem with this being a 30-minute show. There’s a lot to work in.

Tamar: I loved tonight’s episode because it was honest. The balance Gretchen is keeping is impossible to sustain. At some point you either let go of some of the wildness, or you spin out of control like the klepto Cory friend.

Sundi: Let’s hope Gretchen doesn’t steal any stereos just to rebel.

Tamar: Thankfully, she seemed pretty horrified by that situation. Which is pretty amazing, considering Gretchen typically finds questionable behavior to be hilarious.

Sundi: I’m relieved after this episode. Sometimes a sophomore season is just inherently doomed, but it seems to be finding its stride.

Tamar: I agree!

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TV Families | EW.com
Mark Harris
February 23, 1990 AT 05:00 AM EST

The Bradys are back, with a passel of 90’s hassles. Do they represent the typical American Family? Did they ever? Who does? Stare and compare!

Kind Of Family
TheBradyBunch 1969-74: Blended
The Bradys 1990-: Enormous
Married…With Children 1987-: Postnuclear
Thirtysomething 1987-: Extended
The Flintstones 1960-66: Modern Stone Age

Family Pet
The Brady Bunch: Tiger
The Bradys: Alice
Married…With Children: Buck
Thirtysomething: Grendel
The Flintstones: Dino

Typical Guest Star
The Brady Bunch: Davey Jones
The Bradys: There’s no room
Married…With Children: Sam Kinison
Thirtysomething: Carly Simon
The Flintstones: Ann Margrock

Expression Of Joy
The Brady Bunch: Groovy!
The Bradys: Ritual hugging
Married…With Children: ”Oh, great.”
Thirtysomething: ”Of course I’m happy for you. Really. But what about me? Why does it always have to be about you?
The Flintstones: ”Yabba-dabba doo

Expression Of Rage

The Brady Bunch: ”Hmmm…”
The Bradys: ”If you back away from something you really want, then you’re a quitter!” (the angriest any Brady has ever been)
Married…With Children: ”Aaagh, God, take me from this miserable life!”
Thirtysomething: ”I’m not angry, OK?”
The Flintstones: ”Willllmaaaa!”

Typical Problem
The Brady Bunch: Marcia and her rival both want to be the prom queen.
The Bradys: Bobby gets paralyzed.
Married…With Children: Al doesn’t buy his family Christmas presents.
Thirtysomething: Nancy gets cancer.
The Flintstones: Fred and Barney are staying out too late.

Typical Solution
The Brady Bunch: The prom committee decides to have two queens.
The Bradys: Bobby gets married.
Married…With Children: They hate him.
Thirtysomething: If only we knew…
The Flintstones: Wilma and Betty decide to follow them.

House Style
The Brady Bunch: Conservative but mod, circa ’69
The Bradys: Conservative but mod, circa ’90
Married…With Children: Roach motel
Thirtysomething: Enviable
The Flintstones: Suburban cave

Clothing Style
The Brady Bunch: Early Osmonds
The Bradys: Made in the USA
Married…With Children: Flammable fabrics
Thirtysomething: Eclectic earth tones; nice ties
The Flintstones: One-piece

Most Annoying Character
The Brady Bunch: Alice’s cousin Emma, the substitute housekeeper (too strict)
The Bradys: Marcia’s husband, Wally (chronically unemployable)
Married…With Children: Steve (supercilious)
Thirtysomething: Ellyn (goes through Hope’s drawers, babbles, changes hairstyle every other week, generally mistreats her friends)
The Flintstones: Mr. Slate (bossy)

Attitude Toward Sex
The Brady Bunch: Never heard of it
The Bradys: Omigod — even Cindy does it!
Married…With Children: Peg: Yes. Al: No.
Thirtysomething: They didn’t get all those kids by accident.
The Flintstones: Prehistoric

How Spouses Fight
The Brady Bunch: They don’t.
The Bradys: Infrequently, but it happens
Married…With Children: Tooth and nail
Thirtysomething: They stop talking
The Flintstones: Fred and Barney go bowling while Wilma and Betty max out their charge cards.

How Kids Get Into Trouble
The Brady Bunch: Greg takes a puff of a cigarette.
The Bradys: Carol’s grandson steals her business cards and sticks them in the spokes of Bobby’s wheelchair.
Married…With Children: By committing felonies
Thirtysomething: Ethan plays with a forbidden toy rocket.
The Flintstones: They don’t.

How They’re Punished

The Brady Bunch: ”It’s not what you did, honey — it’s that you couldn’t come to us.”
The Bradys ”Next time, ask.”
Married…With Children: By the authorities
Thirtysomething: It blows up in his face.
The Flintstones: They’re not.

What Family Does For Fun
The Brady Bunch: Takes special three-part vacations to Hawaii and the Grand Canyon
The Bradys: Has flashbacks
Married…With Children: Exchanges insults
Thirtysomething: Talks
The Flintstones: Attends showings of The Monster at the Bedrock Drive-In

Unsolved Mysteries
The Brady Bunch: How exactly did Carol’s first husband and Mike’s first wife die?
The Bradys: What’s with Marcia’s new face and Bobby’s blonde hair
Married…With Children: What kind of hair spray does Peg use?
Thirtysomething: Why did Nancy take Elliot back? What do Gary and Susanna see in each other?
The Flintstones: How does Barney’s shirt stay on if he has no shoulders? Where do Fred and Wilma plug in their TV?

Worst Behavior
The Brady Bunch: The Brady children once made Alice feel under-appreciated.

The Bradys: Marcia’s son Mickey watches Bobby’s car-crash tape for fun.
Married…With Children: The Bundy’s kill their neighbor’s dog.
Thirtysomething: Elliot has an affair and talks about it.
The Flintstones: Characters don’t wear under-clothes.

Best Reason To Watch
The Brady Bunch: This is what life should be.
The Bradys: They’re all grown-ups now!
Married…With Children: Terry Rakolta hates it.
Thirtysomething (Tie) This is your life. This isn’t your life.
The Flintstones: This is what life might have been.

Best Reason Not To Watch
The Brady Bunch: Blurred vision from rerun overdoses.
The Bradys: You’re all grown-ups now.
Married…With Children: She has a point.
Thirtysomething: After a while, you think it’s real.
The Flintstones: The Simpsons

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