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Season 2 | Episode 2 | “Crevasses” | Aired Sep 9, 2015

Each week, EW Community contributors chat about the newest episode of You’re the Worst. Here are Tamar Barbash and Sundi Rose Holt‘s thoughts on the second episode of this season, “Crevasses.”

Tamar: Sundi! I loved this episode

Sundi: Shut up, Tamar. I did NOT love it.

Tamar: I knew that was going to happen.

Sundi: The Trivial Pursuit bit actually made me chuckle out loud.

Tamar: And that wasn’t the last time I laughed out loud.

Sundi: I love that the the other three collectively gang up on Jimmy to get a rise out of him. That hits me in my comedy sweet spot.

Tamar: 100 percent. I was trying to nail down why I enjoyed this episode so much as it was happening.

Sundi: I also loved Jimmy’s philosophical rant about the second novel—how he lumps himself in with the likes of Sylvia Plath and Ralph Ellison.

Tamar: Yes! And you said you wanted to see a little more of his work side. So this was a taste of that, which I enjoyed. But more than that, I think, for me, it comes down to feeling that Jimmy and Gretchen are doing what I would do if I just honestly didn’t give a sh-t about anything or anyone’s opinion.

Sundi: That’s where it rubbed me this week. Jimmy and Gretchen are excellent as cartoons. The heightened sense of reality is one of the things I love about this show, but it really gets in the way of me connecting with them.

Tamar: I felt that this episode tapped into some of the characteristics about these two people that I loved from the get-go. Watching Jimmy insult the child artist, for example, felt like classic YTW, where Jimmy is exhibiting a trait that only Gretchen would find endearing

Sundi. I want to be in love with it. I feel terribly guilty about having my doubts. Especially after I came in so hot last week.

Tamar: I find our opposite reactions to be fascinating. It’s just proof that writers can’t please everyone and that audience members want different things.

Sundi: I don’t know how I feel about this Lindsay/Edgar storyline. I root for her, but if she’s going to be a jerk to Edgar, how can I?

Tamar: I knew that was going to be an issue for you. Because if Lindsay’s your girl, you want her to be her awesome self—but not to the point of being terrible to Edgar.

Lindsay discovers new uses for her friendship with Edgar on

Sundi: It makes her wildly unsympathetic. How are we supposed to be on her side when she’s acting like a total a-hole?

Tamar: I think we are supposed to be on the side of wanting her to figure out that she’s being an a-hole and realizing she doesn’t want to be. Lindsay has always been an a-hole. She was absolutely terrible to Paul; we just didn’t care because Paul didn’t mean anything to us.

Sundi:. But that brings me to this question: How long are we supposed to play along with all this “we’re too cool for emotions” bit? Sooner or later their humanity must show through.

Tamar: They’re definitely starting to crack that armor a bit. I think that was the whole reason for bringing up “Paul’s definition of love” so much. The dilemma is that what makes these characters so endearing is their utter disregard for societal conformity. So the question becomes: How can they begin to truly develop feelings for other humans and remain unaffected by societal expectations?

Sundi: And still have the audience’s sympathies? I noticed the mention of “Paul’s definition of love” a lot as well. I thought it was a tongue-in-cheek reference to how Jimmy and Gretchen were so averse to it, but actually performing it explicitly without even knowing it.

Tamar: Exactly. There’s that dichotomy now between the people they think they are when it comes to emotions and the people they actually are.

Sundi: Maybe that is what I’m reacting to. How I see them versus how they see themselves. There’s a huge disconnect there.

Tamar: Season two’s journey is likely going to be a lot about them catching up to who they really are. Gretchen has been living with Jimmy for how long now? And she still can’t mentally grasp the concept of getting her own toothbrush through the door?

Sundi: Come on. Who doesn’t love stuff? She hasn’t demonstrated, in the least, that she would be the kind of girl who wouldn’t love getting new things.

Tamar: The point they’re trying to make with Gretchen is less about relationships and more about her ability to be a grown-up, which is actually in direct contrast to Jimmy, who is pretty successful at adulthood. (Even if she’s the one with the actual income).

Sundi: Sometimes Jimmy is the adult, sometimes it’s Gretchen, and sometimes it’s Edgar—as in the Bloody Mary bar.

Tamar: I’m so glad you brought that up. Gretchen’s horror at the lack of the Bloody Mary bar cracked me up. And also served to show that everyone uses Edgar, and what he really needs is to take a stand. I look forward to watching Edgar take back his dignity.

Sundi: And, if we’re back to things we loved: the mall scene with Jimmy and Gretchen. Whenever they’re onscreen together, I get it. I totally buy in.

Jimmy and Gretchen at the Mall on

Tamar: That’s a lot of what I loved about the episode. Just good ol’ Jimmy and Gretchen fun.

Sundi: I thoroughly enjoyed Jimmy with his agent. It’s about time that Jimmy has a foil—a straight man, if you will.

Tamar: I also like the juxtaposition of Jimmy having it all together at home with Gretchen and then being a complete mess professionally. And by having it all together, I just mean being organized and well decorated and looking like a functional human being.

Sundi: He said everything was “carefully curated,” yet he was willing to allow that dumb Kool Kat poster. Thus proving Paul’s theory about love.

Tamar: I think that was exactly the point of the Paul theory coming up again at the end. Their knee-jerk reaction is “ew,” and yet … here we are.

Sundi: Maybe I’m trying to put all my rom-com crap onto it, when that’s not a fair expectation. Last season was so will-they-make-it-or-won’t-they that I’m trying to figure out how to situate the new dynamic.

Tamar: I liked the fact that this week found a livable equilibrium. They could never have kept up last week’s pace of coke and all-nighters.

Sundi: Before we wrap up, I want to talk more about Lindsay. I don’t really think she’s so clueless about Edgar.

Tamar: I don’t think she’s clueless entirely, but I think the whole point of her horror at what Paul said is that she thinks this is what love is.

Sundi: I’m specifically thinking about the sexy photo shoot. Surely she’s trying to make him jealous.

Tamar: Sort of. It’s not so much jealousy as making sure he finds her sexy. She needs that validation. Desperately.

Sundi: Even though she couldn’t be bothered to wipe the wing sauce off her face.

Tamar: I don’t understand the buffalo-sauce bit. Clearly she wouldn’t take profile pictures with that stuff on her face. She has actually had sex before.

Sundi: Yeah, I couldn’t connect the dots on that either. They spent so much energy last year on Lindsey’s body image that I’m not sure I get the bit.

Tamar: Well, you loved one episode, I loved one episode—here’s hoping next week grabs us both!

Sundi: There’s a rhythm in there somewhere. We just need to put our finger on it.

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Mark Harris
February 23, 1990 AT 05:00 AM EST

The Bradys are back, with a passel of 90’s hassles. Do they represent the typical American Family? Did they ever? Who does? Stare and compare!

Kind Of Family
TheBradyBunch 1969-74: Blended
The Bradys 1990-: Enormous
Married…With Children 1987-: Postnuclear
Thirtysomething 1987-: Extended
The Flintstones 1960-66: Modern Stone Age

Family Pet
The Brady Bunch: Tiger
The Bradys: Alice
Married…With Children: Buck
Thirtysomething: Grendel
The Flintstones: Dino

Typical Guest Star
The Brady Bunch: Davey Jones
The Bradys: There’s no room
Married…With Children: Sam Kinison
Thirtysomething: Carly Simon
The Flintstones: Ann Margrock

Expression Of Joy
The Brady Bunch: Groovy!
The Bradys: Ritual hugging
Married…With Children: ”Oh, great.”
Thirtysomething: ”Of course I’m happy for you. Really. But what about me? Why does it always have to be about you?
The Flintstones: ”Yabba-dabba doo

Expression Of Rage

The Brady Bunch: ”Hmmm…”
The Bradys: ”If you back away from something you really want, then you’re a quitter!” (the angriest any Brady has ever been)
Married…With Children: ”Aaagh, God, take me from this miserable life!”
Thirtysomething: ”I’m not angry, OK?”
The Flintstones: ”Willllmaaaa!”

Typical Problem
The Brady Bunch: Marcia and her rival both want to be the prom queen.
The Bradys: Bobby gets paralyzed.
Married…With Children: Al doesn’t buy his family Christmas presents.
Thirtysomething: Nancy gets cancer.
The Flintstones: Fred and Barney are staying out too late.

Typical Solution
The Brady Bunch: The prom committee decides to have two queens.
The Bradys: Bobby gets married.
Married…With Children: They hate him.
Thirtysomething: If only we knew…
The Flintstones: Wilma and Betty decide to follow them.

House Style
The Brady Bunch: Conservative but mod, circa ’69
The Bradys: Conservative but mod, circa ’90
Married…With Children: Roach motel
Thirtysomething: Enviable
The Flintstones: Suburban cave

Clothing Style
The Brady Bunch: Early Osmonds
The Bradys: Made in the USA
Married…With Children: Flammable fabrics
Thirtysomething: Eclectic earth tones; nice ties
The Flintstones: One-piece

Most Annoying Character
The Brady Bunch: Alice’s cousin Emma, the substitute housekeeper (too strict)
The Bradys: Marcia’s husband, Wally (chronically unemployable)
Married…With Children: Steve (supercilious)
Thirtysomething: Ellyn (goes through Hope’s drawers, babbles, changes hairstyle every other week, generally mistreats her friends)
The Flintstones: Mr. Slate (bossy)

Attitude Toward Sex
The Brady Bunch: Never heard of it
The Bradys: Omigod — even Cindy does it!
Married…With Children: Peg: Yes. Al: No.
Thirtysomething: They didn’t get all those kids by accident.
The Flintstones: Prehistoric

How Spouses Fight
The Brady Bunch: They don’t.
The Bradys: Infrequently, but it happens
Married…With Children: Tooth and nail
Thirtysomething: They stop talking
The Flintstones: Fred and Barney go bowling while Wilma and Betty max out their charge cards.

How Kids Get Into Trouble
The Brady Bunch: Greg takes a puff of a cigarette.
The Bradys: Carol’s grandson steals her business cards and sticks them in the spokes of Bobby’s wheelchair.
Married…With Children: By committing felonies
Thirtysomething: Ethan plays with a forbidden toy rocket.
The Flintstones: They don’t.

How They’re Punished

The Brady Bunch: ”It’s not what you did, honey — it’s that you couldn’t come to us.”
The Bradys ”Next time, ask.”
Married…With Children: By the authorities
Thirtysomething: It blows up in his face.
The Flintstones: They’re not.

What Family Does For Fun
The Brady Bunch: Takes special three-part vacations to Hawaii and the Grand Canyon
The Bradys: Has flashbacks
Married…With Children: Exchanges insults
Thirtysomething: Talks
The Flintstones: Attends showings of The Monster at the Bedrock Drive-In

Unsolved Mysteries
The Brady Bunch: How exactly did Carol’s first husband and Mike’s first wife die?
The Bradys: What’s with Marcia’s new face and Bobby’s blonde hair
Married…With Children: What kind of hair spray does Peg use?
Thirtysomething: Why did Nancy take Elliot back? What do Gary and Susanna see in each other?
The Flintstones: How does Barney’s shirt stay on if he has no shoulders? Where do Fred and Wilma plug in their TV?

Worst Behavior
The Brady Bunch: The Brady children once made Alice feel under-appreciated.

The Bradys: Marcia’s son Mickey watches Bobby’s car-crash tape for fun.
Married…With Children: The Bundy’s kill their neighbor’s dog.
Thirtysomething: Elliot has an affair and talks about it.
The Flintstones: Characters don’t wear under-clothes.

Best Reason To Watch
The Brady Bunch: This is what life should be.
The Bradys: They’re all grown-ups now!
Married…With Children: Terry Rakolta hates it.
Thirtysomething (Tie) This is your life. This isn’t your life.
The Flintstones: This is what life might have been.

Best Reason Not To Watch
The Brady Bunch: Blurred vision from rerun overdoses.
The Bradys: You’re all grown-ups now.
Married…With Children: She has a point.
Thirtysomething: After a while, you think it’s real.
The Flintstones: The Simpsons

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