The Tyrant season two finale is only hours away. Thanks to Cameron Gharaee, who plays Ahmed, fans are able to get a bit of a finale scoop: There’s going to be a major shakeup, something that will create a seismic shift within the show.
Gharaee also discussed some of the finer points of both seasons with the EW Community, including finding Ahmed’s voice; working with Moran Atias, Ashraf Barhom, and Sybilla Deen; and how social media is like a grocery store.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY COMMUNITY: Ahmed has changed a lot since “Zanjir.” When you read that Ahmed would finally find out what his parents were really like, what did you think about it?
CAMERON GHARAEE: I think when we had first started the new season, I knew Ahmed was going to have a lot of changes. I spoke with [Howard Gordon], our showrunner, and at that point, I knew that we were coming back into the show a few months later [after the end of season one]. That’s kind of the coolest part, being this young Arab voice, seeing this young guy grow up and corrupt his world. So for me, I was like, “Finally,” as opposed to, “What is this?” I kind of knew Ahmed’s direction; I just didn’t know if he would get there this season. When I read episode 10, I was very happy. I knew exactly what I wanted to do, and it was great to see that on the page. Now that the show has come to the season finale … I think Ahmed’s in a really interesting position.
That leads me to my next question . What can you tease fans with about the finale?
I’ll tell you this much: When I read the finale and I got to the end, I was like, “Okay, I don’t think anybody’s going to be expecting this.” Something very interesting is going to happen at the end of this season, and it’s going to be very exciting to see what happens … I definitely think fans are going to be very interested.
That’s a lot for fans to take in. The fact that something bigger than we expected is going to happen is exciting.
Definitely. It’s going to be big, for sure. It’s going to be completely out of left field.
You’re probably the one out of the entire cast who’s worked the closest with Moran Atias and Ashraf Barhom. What’s it like working with them?
Moran and Ashraf are two of the most incredible people. They’re very compassionate and very serious about their work. They really connected with me. Last season was really special because I had come to Morocco and we were filming and I was playing Jamal’s son. So Ashraf—even though in the pilot when we were filming, I was just introduced and we didn’t know how far my character would go—it was really nice because I got to sit with Ashraf and we got to spend time together and me and Moran did the same thing. They’re incredible actors and they’re very serious and they’re very giving; it’s been an incredible experience. I’ve become very good friends with them. That’s the best part about it: You can work with somebody and be inspired and also have a commonality and be able to share common interests. Me and Ashraf both play guitar, so I spend a lot of time with Ashraf playing guitar … You become lifelong friends from these experiences.
You’ve worked with Sybilla Deen; again, you’re probably the one out of everyone who’s worked the closest with her. What’s that like?
She’s become like a sister to me. We got thrown in this together, and we really didn’t know where our storylines were going, for the both of us. We’ve been on this journey together, seeing our story keep expanding, so it’s been really exciting for both of us, especially for us as actors. We get more opportunity to do something the show. We do most of our scenes together, so it’s been really nice working with her and growing with her as actors. I’ve spent a lot of time with Sybilla, especially that first year; most of our scenes were just us two. The interesting thing is that you have Jamal, you have Leila, you have Bassam, they all have big scenes and have gotten to expand—but if you look back at the first season, it’s really me and Sybilla in every scene. So we were working doing our own show with our characters. We really had an opportunity to learn a lot about each other. It was a great experience.
You referenced how you were still trying to figure out where your story was going to go in season one. This season, we’ve seen a lot concrete character developments. What is one of the things you’d say you’re the happiest or most relieved about with the storytelling between this season and last season?
When you’re starting a new show, especially something like this, there’s nothing to compare it to. So I think we were all trying to find the audience that the show really gravitated toward. The first season really set up this world, and now that we had the opportunity to get that set up and we have a shot to do it again, I think the writers really had a vision this season. I’m very proud of this season. They really dove in and it became very character-driven.
I think the cool thing about the show is that the world has expanded so much that everybody can find a character they really identify with. I found that this season, the writing was so much more delicate and so much so detailed. That was my favorite part of the season, just to open this character’s voice and have an opinion about it. And for me, it’s just an opportunity to bring Ahmed to life.
Last year, I was pulling on pieces as we were doing the scenes, trying to expand the character. We had no focus and direction, necessarily, so I was literally just making choices and trying to keep him open. That’s what’s been fun for me with this character … there’s a duality with him. There’s that innocent, young, sheltered side of him, and there’s that deadly side of him that comes with his family. So there’s that constant struggle with him trying to balance that. That’s the most interesting part for me, and obviously, that I had really concentrated on how he was processing this because that’s what you do at this age—you’re trying to find your identity. So that’s been my biggest focus for him this season. I think we’ve seen him grow a lot this season. We’ve seen him mature and accept the world around him.
Seasons one and two featured a lot of references to real-life events like the Arab Spring and the fall of certain Middle Eastern regimes. There’s also the fact that this is an American show about Middle Eastern characters on an American network, which hasn’t happened in a long time, to be conservative about it. What do you think about Tyrant ‘s influence in America? Do you think it’s helped open some minds about Middle Eastern people and ridding people of stereotypes?
We’re probably able to unveil some things in culture that maybe America doesn’t understand, or maybe they haven’t seen before. For me, the key to this show is just literally pulling the curtain back and saying, “This is what’s going on, this is what’s happening. You can take it in pieces … and see what it is that you like.” The great thing about a show like this, just from an actor’s standpoint, is just having these faces onscreen. You don’t see a lot of these characters. Usually it’s just a terrorist or just someone screaming into a microphone. I think what’s great about this show is that these are people too.
A lot of Americans don’t know about the Middle East, yet they have strong political views on things—but these are people too, and they have struggles. It makes it an even playing field for everyone, and it’s going to open a lot of doors, hopefully. Especially with the show doing well and people enjoying it, it can open the door for more shows. I think that’s what this is; it’s a bridge to testing the waters and saying, “Look, these shows are entertaining, these people do have an interesting culture.” It’s rich and colorful, and they have really amazing personas. The personalities of the culture are very fascinating … it’s a beautiful culture. I think this is a bridge to open that door for more stories to be told—and that’s all you can really hope for.
You have interacted with fans on Twitter. The first question is: What do you think about the fandom interaction? And the second part is: Do you have a message you’d like to give them?
Social media has been the hardest thing in the world for me. I’m so bad at it, and I’m trying to figure it out, and I know there’s an art to it. It’s been really fun getting to connect with people and getting their responses. People are so supportive, and it’s been interesting to see what people are thinking, what direction they think it’s going to go. They’ll ask us questions … and we respond. While the show was airing, none of us were in the U.S. So it was like we were in a different world, basically another planet making the show, and it’s like they transmitted the signal somewhere else.
I just recently got back to L.A., so having people come up to me while you’re out at the grocery store or wherever, telling you they love the show, social media kind of reminds me of that. It’s just nice to have people come up who are interested, asking questions, and just enjoying that process.
As far as something I’d want to say, I think we just have to keep growing the show. The fact that a bunch of us are on Twitter and interacting with everyone, and we just kind of bring it to a place where it’s like, “Hey, let’s share ideas, let’s talk” … I just hope everyone keeps spreading the word, and hopefully we can do another one of these seasons.
One last question : Do you think now, if given the chance, Ahmed would be able to successfully run a boutique London hotel?
(Laughs.) Yeah, I do now. After everything he’s been through, I think a boutique hotel would be no problem now. Losing his baby and seeing his uncle murdered, seeing his parents push his wife away—he’s gone through the ringer this season. So yeah, I think he could. I think he’d do a great job. He’d have the hot spot; he’d be on the top of TripAdvisor.
Tyrant airs Tuesdays at 10/9C on FX.
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